Kritische reacties van Finse leerkrachten op idyllische voorstelling van Fins onderwijs in Is this School Heaven? No, its Finland op blog Lilys Blacckboard
1.Nina Melander February 11, 2015
I wish the truth be told about some of the shortcomings of our system..About how many of us teachers feel that integration and equal opportunity for all means that we have very few measures to challenge the gifted, differenciate upwards. Rather we have to drag everyone along, offer everything to everyone even if they themselves do not want to! But godforbid no one should be left behind, everyone has to have the same rights even if they are not willing to work for them! We dont emphasize public speaking, debating or being able to present your work and that one of the possible reasons for our success in PISA could partially be explained by our countrys homogenous population profile with very few children with immigrant background.
About how Finnish children hate school, about how we dont have circle time, or assemblies to teach social skills and togetherness to our students, about how the students on the hall ways of our schools do not greet their teachers and how too many of them just lack basic good manners. Many of the methods Finnish teachers use are old fashioned and we teach by the book and with the book rather than by doing or we think that our books = the curriculum. Our students ICT skills are some of the poorest in Europe. Yes we have nailed it on many levels but it certainly is not heaven in Finland either
2.Kia Siven February 17, 2015
One big minus for Finnish school system is lack of support for gifted students. Finland has concentrated so much to make equal possibilities for everyone, education system has no paths for gifted students. These students are often left to boredom and unfortunately many loose interest in learning. And even if teachers wanted to help, there really isnt much they can do.
3. Ameilia Väätäinen
February 12, 2015 As a North American Mom, raising children in Finland, I have often thought about the differences between the Canadian and the Finnish educ systems. There is good and bad in both the educ system in BC and the system in Finland. No child is left behind in comprehensive school and support is there for a child who struggles in any subject. The children who do not struggle are perhaps not encouraged enough to challenge themselves. Good or bad? Depends where one stands I suppose.
It would benefit Finnish children to be encouraged to develop critical thinking skills and to clearly communicate their views, projects, ideas, etc. Perhaps not going as far as to take on the US habit of debate, but to feel confident and to project this.
The majority of Finnish children are very very passive and, quite literally, have no voice in the classroom. This society is socialistic and the school system, with its no children left behind, supports the ideology of a thoughtful society. However, is it realistic for Finland to remain as insular as it is? Our Finnish children should be more encouraged to look outside of the box if they are going to compete in the global markets for jobs, sales, education, etc.
4.Martti Muukkonen February 11, 2015
As a Finn, who have gone throught the whole system from the ground school to doctorate and with a teachers education, Id like add my comment. Positive aspects naturally exist and Im not downplaying them. I value them highly and am grateful for the possibility to get my high education.
However, in spite of all this, after two first years, less than 1/3 of Finnish schoolchildren are satisfied to the teaching. In the case of boys, situation is even more catastrophic: in 7-10th grades satisfaction is even negative. So it is not such a heaven as often claimed. So, there is something seriously wrong that our schoolsystem has not been able to pinpoint.
5. Partow Izadi - February 13, 2015
I am a teacher trainer and specialist in global education working at the University of Lapland, Rovaniemi. I have been in Finland for almost 40 years now, have studied and worked in the field of education for over 30 years.., Im in fact somewhat afraid of what will become of this bubble image we have created about the supremacy of our educational system, even our society. We live in a society with so many time bombs ticking away that, when these bombs go off, we will face a reality that might rock us to our cores. According to some studies, for instance, when the current generation of teenagers will be in their 30s, 40s and 50s and in charge of running this society there will be such a huge percentage of them that are incapable of taking care of even their own basic needs, let alone the running of society. This means a smaller and smaller number of people will have to be taking responsibility of growing percentage of socially/mentally/practically incapacitated citizens.
And why? Because we believe that humans can indefinitely pursue a selfish agenda of personal happiness at the cost of fundamental social morality and a sense of community responsibility. So this is not at all just the dilemma of the educational system, but concerns the whole societal paradigm. The one-eyed and lop-sided philosophy of unbridled individualism and materialism being dogmatically pursued by our society (including also the rest of Europe, and I guess somewhat also America and Australia) has unwittingly eroded our moral sensibilities, both individually and collectively. The empirical indications of this are seen in the collapse in the sense of community, self-destructive behaviours, and the damage done to generations of youth who learned to believe that violence, indecency, and selfishness are triumphs of personal liberty. I sincerely hope that those time bombs are not as destructive as they seem they can be!
6.Liisa Sirkkola February 7, 2015
I was an English and Swedish language teacher in a primary school in the Metropolitan Helsinki area for 33 years. Everything Lily tells rings true in my ears. Children in the Finnish schools do learn what they are taught very well. The only problem I know of is that inquiries into how pupils like schools and the atmosphere there always show they don´t like school, they don´t feel happy there. It is a mystery to me why this is. Are we perhaps demanding too many intellectual skills and giving too little time to do things like arts, music, drama
7.Samuel Orvomaa - February 11, 2015
Not all teachers here are the creme de la creme of their age group as they are made out to be, but they are the most suitable for the job. The entrance rate for teacher training programs is constantly around 15%. I have a permanent position, and hell, ask anyone, I was a terrible student as a teenager. I entered high school with an average of 7,6 (on a scale of 4-10, with 7,0 being the lowest grade you can usually get into high school with in the Helsinki area)