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Wat Finland-propagandist PASI Sahlberg hier (zie bijlage) en elders beweert over de toepassing van progressieve ideeën à la Dewey e.d. in het (eerder klassieke) Fins onderwijs is volgens Finse leerkrachten complete onzin.

*oldspaper :This is complete nonsense. Here are five real things about Finland that are different:
1. A terminal exam that you prevents you from getting an arbitur diploma unless you pass it. 2. Higher expectations and more independence for students.
3. A vocational option for high school (tracking) 4. Less focus on school sports

*@Popo: I'm not complaining about the education system, but this article just doesn't match with any of my experiences

*@Alecaldi: What a bunch of crap. As a Fin with 18 years in the school system, now M.Sc Tech, I can't recognize most of the stuff.And to remind you, there is no High school in any Scandinavian countries. It's more like a pre-college for 3 years if you choose to go academic.

*AM : This article is just unbelievable propaganda and it would be very interesting to know who fed you all this rubbish. Where are these so-called "facts" been taken from? Several of them are simply not true! Finnish teachers are not selected from the top 10% of graduates. All pupils take exams and have homework. All children are certainly not taught in the same classrooms. And what in the world is this "mandatory standardized test which is taken when children are 16"?! I've never heard of it and I work as a teacher in Finland. And excuse me...according to these "facts" I only spend four hours per day in the classroom?! That is so not true!

*DI: This article explains why there have been so many Nobel prizes per capita in Finland, and why Finnish technology companies like Nokia are currently destroying the competition, and why Finland leads the pack on biotech.

*PM I went through the Finnish education system so I can correct a few "facts". 1. We start to get homework since the first grade. Of course not that much in the beginning, but there definitely is homework. 2. We definitely are measured since grade one (=eerste leerjaar) at school.3. All kids are taught in the same classroom except when a kid is having difficulties with learning, and then he/she can go to a special teacher's little class to be taught. 4. Teachers spend way more than 4 hours a day in a classroom, except maybe when his/her class is the first or second grade and their days are shorter. But I remember being 10 and had 7-8 hour days and my teacher was there all the time.5.. Although teachers are highly regarded, they are not regarded as highly as doctors and lawyers. Especially if you teach Swedish in Junior High School.

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