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Grote consternatie onder de Engelse 'towncriers'.
Er was onlangs een moordzaak in Hastings die nogal wat stof deed opwaaien in de regio.
Jon Bartholomew, de 'belleman van Hastings, ging zoals het hoort, samen met tal van hoogwaardigheidsbekleders, een herdenkingsoptocht voor ter ere van de overledene en zou nadien een speech afsteken.
Tot zijn grote verwondering werd hem aanbevolen zijn relaas niet te beindigen met het gebruikelijke
"God save the Queen" maar met
"IT UPSETS SOME PEOPLE!"
Lees hieronder de vele reacties van onze Engelse collega's...
Fellow Criers,
I have today received an email from a most distressed Jon Bartholomew, Town Crier of Hastings, in which he asks for our support.
As you know, there was an untimely death in Hastings last week, which is not yet being classed as a murder. However, Jon informs me that Hastings has had very bad press over the matter, and, to try to offset that bad press, Jon is leading a parade of Civic dignitaries through the town tomorrow (Monday) morning, when at 11am a two-minute silence for the deceased person will be held.
Here is the rub:
JON HAS BEEN TOLD NOT TO SAY "GOD SAVE THE QUEEN" at the end in case "IT UPSETS SOME PEOPLE!"
What a disgrace!
Jon has asked me to point this out to the membership, and I feel an email from each member to Jon registering our support for him would not go amiss.
His email address is
Come on folks, let's show Jon we are behind him 100%
Cheers
John Robinson
GOD SAVE THE QUEEN
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Agreed ! Absolutely disgraceful and some PC zealot should be put in the stocks!!
Have written to Daily Telegraph and the Daily Mail accordingly.
Regards
Rob Romano
Whitehaven
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Hi John/Jon
What a liberty, we must make a stand against this we must not cowtow to those who might feel we could upset or offend them, We have traditions in our profession and these cannot be dismissed on grounds we could offend or upset.
I am only sorry I cannot go as I would cry GOD SAVE THE QUEEN and be dammend.
Is the next thing for Hastings going to be dont mention the Battle of Hastings for fear of upsetting someone.
I was in Birmingham yesterday for a function which was attended by people from all cultures and not one person was offended when I finished the cry with the customary God Save the Queen.
Anthony Church
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Jon, John
I regret to say that I am offended by whoever has made this rulingl, whilst I would not wish to cause friction with yourself Jon by circulating outside the company you are welcome to forward to your council if desired.
I have previously cried at Hastings and whilst not recently due to family commitments (kids getting older and not left home yet); I had every intention to do so again. With an attitude thus I sincerly hope that this would not apply to the championship? I look forwards from the AHGTC response for a new line...... God Save the Council of Hastings?
Jon
I for one would not attend this function if I was being dictated to in this manner. I always reserve the right to present my cry in a fashion and manner that I believe to be correct, if I am not 100% comfortable I can always be busy elsewhere.
Regards and all the best
Mike Blackburn
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Dear John,
When the day comes that God Save The Queen (or King) is changed as a national anthem then we as Town Criers may have to amend the current conclusion to our proclamations for it may mean the monarchy has ended.
Until then what else can one say to prevent the erosion to our culture other than, that's right, GOD SAVE THE QUEEN.
Michael Wood
East Riding of Yorkshire Town Crier
Mob 07770 372999
Home 01482 650773
www.iringmybell.com
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Dear John & Jon
That's terrible: it amounts to treachery and treason!
An application should be made to the Queen to revoke the town's charter.
And to the Garter King of Arms to withdraw their Letters Patent to bear a coat of arms.
Meanwhile ...
GOD SAVE THE QUEEN : MAY THE QUEEN LIVE FOR EVER!!
Brian Sylvester
Newbury Town Crier
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I for one will not be throwing away this countryÂ’s heritage and traditions.
Are we to become a Republic? Not if I have anything to do with it.
“God Spare The Queen”
Ding Dong Truro,
JL Sweetman Cornwall.
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Dear Jon
Local computer difficulties prevented my writing to
you sooner. Along with all the other criers, you have
my full support and I am glad the matter has been
resolved. It is probably worth noting that the
police, who have investigated this terrible
occurrence, as well as the armed forces and Members of
Parliament also enjoy allegiance to the crown and,
therefore, the whole of the United Kingdom (another
clue in that title, too!!!).
All the best
Paul Gough
Dit bericht werd verstuurd naar onderstaande mailsadressen van 'Town Criers', 'Stads en Dorpsomroepers' en 'Bellemannen' over gans de wereld.
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> Michael Wood <iringmybell@yahoo.co.uk>
Dear Fellow Criers
I am overwhelmed by your quick response and underlying support. As a background to today's events, it was not known until 10:30 hours that His Excellency the Ambassador of Quatar was attending Hastings with the family of Mohammed Al - Majed who was the unfortunate recipient of last weekends violence and who subsequently died. As I suggested in my letter to you all, much media, both in the press and the television, have suggested that Hastings is a bad place to live, breathe or even execute ones duty. At the 11th hour this morning, after much consultation with media representatives of the council who were, I suggest, being manipulated by higher beings in local and central Government, I put our case forward and stressed that in no uncertain terms I would not complete this ceremony without the closing "God Save the Queen."
In light of your support and that of the people of Hastings, the cry was delivered in the presence and hearing of the Right Worshipful Mayor (who supports us 100%), his Excellency the Ambassador and the father of the deceased and was greeted with the reverence and thanks that it necessarily deserved. I therefore say this matter, albeit unpleasant, has now been closed and in support of all your comments, we will not and should not be dictated to by Council or any others that feel our office can be manipulated to serve a purpose.
Once again, I thank you all for your support. It has opened certain eyes to the fact that whatever the situation within this realm, we cannot and will not be dictated to as the Monarchs Messenger and Servants of the Crown.
God bless you all.
GOD SAVE THE QUEEN
Jon Bartholomew
Town Crier of Hastings
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